Date:
Tue, 11 May 2004 16:15:24 +0930
From:
Sam Cleland
Hi John and others
Rossby waves seem to have
been a feature in recent weeks. Early April saw good structure in the western
Pacific, with cyclonic circulations symmetrical about the equator and bursts
of westerly wind seen in the near-equatorial regions there. This
was the set-up that saw the start of Typhoon Sudal, In the current
iteration of Matt's filtered animation, you
can follow the current Indian
Ocean equatorial Rossby wave from the Pacific in early April. The
stretch through the Indonesian Archipelago is pretty weak, but I guess
any weak low-level vortex is going to struggle through
that type of orography?
In the current situation,
it seems as though a MJO event has been superimposed on all of this. Have
a look also at Matt's RMM Index at:
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/RMM/phase.Last40days.gif.
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Considering the current
active broad-scale near-equatorial convection over Aus longitudes
in recent days, and the lead-up of substantial convection in the Indian
Ocean over the past two weeks, this seems like a good representation.
There seems to be logic in transition periods being favourable for symmetric set-ups about the equator, (eg equatorial Rossby waves), and I can add the observation that a preliminary frequency-analysis of email discussion list topics showed a "Rossby" peak in May and November! From memory, November 2003 was a very good month for equatorial Rossby waves in the Indian Ocean. This is the set-up for equatorial westerly wind bursts, so why not monsoon onsets?
Cheers
Sam
Matt
Wheeler
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:50:08
+1000 (AEST)
From: Matthew Wheeler
Subject: Re: [Monsoon] n
= 1 Equatorial Rossby wave in Indian Ocean: Possible role in
first
appearance of monsoon westerlies
> c) The OLR diagnostics
pick up a Kelvin wave travelling rapidly through
> the region between about
3 May and 9 May, which again I find difficult to
> see in the unfiltered
wind signature.... though it probably IS there...
> look at the little westerly
burst at 150E on the last analysis in the
> sequence (12 UTC 10 May).
Time permitting, I'll run a hovmoller of zonal
> winds at the equator and
see if I can pick up the Kelvin wave signal).
John, I have a hovmoller
of u850 (5S to 5N average) at
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/NCEP+GASP/hov.last6m.an.EQ.u850.gif
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The Convectively-coupled Kelvin wave is quite easy to see in this plot. It started way back in the Pacific, and has gone all through the Atlantic to appear in the Indian Ocean.
(compare to the OLR-only
plot, with filtering, at
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/OLR_modes/h.6.ALL.EQ.html
)
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-Matt.
Matt Wheeler
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 18:15:52
+1000 (AEST)
From: Matthew Wheeler
Subject: Re2: [Monsoon]
n = 1 Equatorial Rossby wave in Indian Ocean: Possible role
in
first
appearance of monsoon westerlies
> There seems to be logic
in transition periods being favourable for
> symmetric set-ups about
the equator, (eg equatorial Rossby waves), and I
> can add the observation
that a preliminary frequency-analysis of email
> discussion list topics
showed a "Rossby" peak in May and November! From
> memory, November 2003
was a very good month for equatorial Rossby waves in
> the Indian Ocean. This
is the set-up for equatorial westerly wind bursts,
Yes, the transition seasons
often show similar examples of symmetric
vortices, sometimes combined
with n=1 ER waves, MJOs, or both. I have
put a small collection of
samples from recent years in a powerpoint
presentation on the web
at (will be available in < 20 mins)
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/junk/
-Matt.
Adam
Sobel
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:16:50
-0400
From: Adam Sobel John, Matt,
et al.,
this is indeed a beautiful textbook case. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
I suppose this is why they
call the MJO a "Kelvin-Rossby" wave. Has some
properties of both, presumably
involves some coupling of the two, through nonlinearity
and/or convection, and thus
doesn't move at the speed of either one.
However another issue that
has always bothered me is the role of background flows
on the Wheeler-Kiladis plots,
which involve dispersion curves for resting basic states.
I know I have discussed
this with Wheeler and/or Kiladis at one time or another but
I can't remember what they
said about it... maybe Matt can explain how much this may
be relevant to interpreting
what the filtered diagnostics show. Seems particularly
relevant to slow-moving
disturbances, where any background flow influence would
change the propagation speed
a lot, percentage-wise.
Another question which interests
me is how much tropical cyclone dynamics (meaning,
active coupling of convection
to the vortical flow through wind-evaporation feedback
as operates in tropical
cyclones) may be helping to strengthen this pattern. Whether or
not the tropical depressions
get to named strength doesn't necessarily tell us the answer
to this. People argue
a lot about how convection and the large scale flow couple in general,
but in TCs is the one place
where we don't debate that it works or how it works. To the
extent that TC dynamics
can project on larger-scale patterns (e.g. through Rossby wave
dispersion, TC is a vortex
on a beta plane) , it makes a hard problem a lot easier.
Adam
Adam H. Sobel
Department of Applied Physics
and Applied Mathematics
Department of Earth and
Environmental Sciences
Columbia University
PS does this count as an
early monsoon onset over India? We have westerlies
over a good portion of the
west coast for a while during John's sequence.
Adam
Matt Wheeler
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:36:49
+1000 (AEST)
From: Matthew Wheeler
Adam asked about the influence
of the background flows on the various
waves that appear in the
OLR wavenumber-frequency spectra
(that is, the waves as appearing
in the figure on the web page at
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/abstracts/WK99.html
).
He is correct in pointing
out that the dispersion curves for which
the filtering is designed
are based on a resting basic state, as are
the dispersion curves in
the original spectra. For the slower moving
waves (i.e., small phase
speed = freq/wavenumber), the effect of a
background flow will be
greater. This, I believe, is the reason why
the n=1 ER wave spectral
"peak" is more washed-out than the peak
for the Kelvin or low wavenumber
MRG waves. For example, look how
sharp the wavenumber-0 MRG
wave spectral peak looks!
In practice, what this means
is that the filtering diagnostic for
the slower moving waves
(i.e., especially the ER wave) is likely
to miss some instances of
them in nature. Conversely, the filtered
fields also contain variance
from noise that is not related to the
waves. So it is not perfect.
However, I don't see how the filtering,
as a simple diagnostic,
can be improved to take into account such
background flows in any
simple way. Adam, at what level would you
use for a background "steering"
flow? Or should one use a tropospheric
average? A further complication
is that as soon as one starts thinking
about equatorial waves and
background flows, one realises that there
is vertical shear of that
background flow, and vertical shear makes
the primitive equations
unseparable, and all this use of shallow
water dispersion curves
becomes less certain. In the end, however,
the proof is in the pudding,
and the pudding to me is that features
that look like the shallow
water dispersion curves DO exist in the
spectra, and at times (like
now), filtering along these curves
appears very useful for
diagnosing the different modes that are
occuring.
-Matt.
(A side note.... Interestingly,
the spectral peak of the MJO appears relatively sharp compared to that
of the n=1 ER waves. Yet they both move with relatively the same phase
speed. The question thus arises, how can the MJO maintain a relatively
contant phase-speed as a convectively-coupled signal in the presence of
the same background flows? I think the answer is that when the MJO is active,
it is so strong that it defines/generates those background flows. There
is nothing bigger than it to affect it in such a way! )