Harald Richter
Did
I hear coldies?
>
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Andrew Burton wrote:
> >
John - if you consider what the coldies diagnostic represents it becomes
>
> apparent that the diagnostic, although named "coldies" doesn't care whether
>
> the air is pre or post frontal ("warm" or "cold" air). We often see the
>
> strongest coldies signal in the prefrontal airmass - (and we often issue
>
> warnings for "coldies" in "warm" ie. prefrontal air). The coldies signal
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> represents the coincidence of instability (<-1 700hPa LI for strong
>
> signal), upmotion (0.9500 sigma <-15x10-3 s-1 or 700hPa <-15hPa
hr-1) and
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> low level shear (850hPa - 10m > 11ms-1). The salient characteristic
>
> of most "coldies" producing environments is an atmosphere characterised
by
>
> relatively low CAPE together with high shear in the low levels. These
occur
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> most often in a winter environment - but I don't think the atmosphere
>
> particularly cares about "warm" or "cold" air (forgive my
>
> anthropomorphising). Often the shear is stronger ahead of the front.
Thanks,
Andrew, for listing the formal criteria for the coldies diagnostic
package
we use. Just for clarity, I take "coldies" to mean "cold season
tornado"
or
any (?) tornado that occurs from, say, Apr-Nov. This says nothing
about
the
tornadogenesis mechanism itself, it is a classification by time-of-occurence.
My
(somewhat anecdotal) impression of typical coldie setups is one of short,
fat
low-level
CAPE embedded into fairly stout low-level shear. Given a surface
lifting
mechanism
(usually some convergence line) parcels rising into such a CAPE/shear
profile
can acquire some rotation, before the show ends around ~500 hPa or so.
The
formal diagnostic seems to address the CAPE (700hPa LI), the near-surface
lifting
mecahnism (0.9500 sigma vert.vel.) and the shear (850hPa) at three
individual
reference levels.
> Thanks....
I wasn't really concerned whether the coldies occurred in cold
>
air or warm air... I was wondering more why there should be much
>
instability in that situation..... You have partly answered it by
>
pointing out that they usually ocur with "relatively low CAPE"
Although
Andrew mentions that the CAPE is low, the CAPE/layer depth might
not
be too bad within the relatively shallow layer where CAPE>0.
I
suppose dw/dz stretching zeta ain't that shabby in that shallow layer.
My
2 bobs worth,
Harald